(pour
revenir à la table des matières clicquer sur le titre.)
As for Example.
Of 600 People, the Sixth Part (vizt 100) are teeming Women,
which (if they were all marry'd) might bear 40 Children per Ann. (Vizt)
20 more than do dye out of 600, at the rate of one out of 30; and consequently
in 16 Years the Increase will be 320, making the whole 920. And by the
same Reason, in the next 9 Years, the said 920 will be 280 more, in all
1200, vizt double of the Original Number of 600.
Upon these Principles, if there be about 19000 Births per
Ann. at London, the Number of the marry'd teeming Women must be above
38000; and of the whole Stock of the Teeming Women must be above 114000,
and of the whole People Six Times as many vizt 684000; which agrees well
enough with 696000, which they have been elsewhere computed to be.
To conclude it is naturally possible, that all teeming Women
may be marry'd, since there are in Effect 560 Males to 325 Females; and
since Great Britain and Ireland can with moderate Labor food and other
Necessaries to near double the present People or to about 20 Millions
of heads, as shall when Occasion requires it, be demonstrated.
Memorandum, that the Councel or judicature abovementioned
to be final for Ireland, may serve also for Managing the Multiplication
of the King's Subjects, and may withal be a Means to perpetuate and secure
the Universal Liberty of Religion late indulged by his Majestic; May take
care that humor and sinister Designs be not obtruded upon the Government
as Tenderness of Conscience; Nor that the said Latitude in Divine Worship
and Profession of Opinions concerning Spiritual Matters, and what concerns
the World to come, may not in this World destroy the Unity, Peace and
Plenty, of the People. And all this under the King's Authority, This Councel
being supposed to have none of it's own, altho' it be Vox Populi,
and as near as may be, the very Church of England.
ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SAME MATTERS,
BY WAY OF DIALOGUE BETWEEN A AND B.
A. How many Acres of Land, belonging to the Catholicks of
Ireland A° 1641, are now, in this year 1687, enjoyed by the English
Protestants ?
B. Two Millions 400000 Acres, as appears by the Books of Distribution,
extracted out of the Decrees and Certificates of the Court of Claims.
A. What is the Value of the said Lands?
B. I do not know what their Value is in this Year 1687, but in the Year
1683 (having bin extremely improved) I guess they might have been worth
near 40s. the Acre, and A° 1641 and 1673, about 30s.
the Acre, A° 1663 about 20s. & A° 1653 about half a
Crown.
A. With what Face can you say they were so Cheap?
B. It is Notorious and expressly mentioned in the Acts of 17th Charles
the First ; as also in the Usurper's Act of Satisfaction made A° 1653,
That the Lands in Leinster should be rated at 12s. per Acre, in
Munster at 9s. in Connaught at 6s., and in Ulster at 4s.
So as 4 Acres set out by Lot (one in each Province) should go for 31s.
in DebenturMoney, which makes but 10s. in Silver-Money. Now if
4 Acres be worth but 10s. one is worth but 2s. 6d.
A. This is very hard to be believed. Have you any other Proof?
B. Yes for 4 Millions 800000 Acres A° 1659 were by Solemn Commission
returned to be worth but 180000l., or 9d. the Acre : And
if they were worth but 9d. the Acre A° 1659, they were not
worth 5d. per Acre A° 1653, nor above 4 Year's Purchase at
that Rent, viz. not above 20d. per Acre even for the Inheritance:
Which by Experience is nearer the Truth than half a Crown.
A. I am amazed ! I Believe, but help my Unbelief, and tell me what was
the Reason of what you say.
B. At that Time there was no Housing, nor Cattle upon the
Land, little Money or Trade in the Nation, no sure Titles; Soldier's Debenturs
were taken for a Jest : And the whole Government and Army in the Hands
of Anabaptists.
A. Well, I am satisfy'd that all the said Lands might fairly and squarely
have been bought for 300 Thousand Pounds in ready Money. But pray, Who
did Claim them before the Acts of Satisfaction 1653.
B. You will wonder and Laugh to hear my Answer.
1. For the Adventurer said, that his equitable Debt was in Principle Interest
and Insurance 1200000l., and Quadruple to the Value of the Lands,
But that his Legal Debt or Original Money was equal unto it.
2. The British Protestants, who were plundered A° 1642 by the Rebels,
said that the Goods, Money, and Cattle, which they lost, were worth 600000l.,
as appeared by Examination upon Oath, besides the Interest thereof for
10 Years. And therefore that all the said 300000l., worth of Forfeited
Lands belonged unto them and not to Strangers.
3. The owners of Ruined Housing said, That their Damage, in the 12 Years
of the Warrs, amounted to Six Times the then Value of the said forfeited
Lands.
4. The Owners of the Cattle, which had been destroyed in the said 12 Years
(for very few were left) said that their Value amounted to at least 3
Millions, or ten Times the Value of the said Lands.
5. The Army, who serv'd from the Year 1641 to the Year 1648, and the People
that fed them, pretended to a Debt of 3600000l.
6. The State and People of England said they had actually sent over 1200000l.,
or 4 Times the Value of the said Lands.
7. The Protestant Land Lords of Ireland said, that their Lands A°
1641, were worth above 4000000l., and A° 1653 but 400000l.:
So as they were damnify'd 12 Times the Value of the forfeited Lands.
8. The Protestant Churchmen said, That their Lands and Tyths, which the
Catholick's State had Usurp'd during the 8 Years of their Reign, amounted
at least to 900000l., or 3 Times the Value of the forfeited Lands.
9. The King (or those who Usurped his Right) said that the
Public Revenue, taken by the said new State for the said Time, amounted
to 5 or 600000l. That the Value of the 34000 Men, sent into the
Service of Foreign Princes, were worth above 1200000l., and that
the 600000 Subjects, which the Kingdom had less in the Year 1653, than
they might have had (had not the Warrs begun by the Irish hinder'd their
Increase) at 70l. per Head, were worth 42 Millions, or 140 Times
the whole Value of the Forfeited Lands.
10. Lastly, the Soldiers who actually conquer'd Ireland said that their
Debenturs amounted 1160000l., or Quadruple the Value of the Forfeited
Lands.
A. Oh, I am amazed, It seems to me that all these Claims do amount to
near 200 Times the Value of the Forfeitures.
B. They do so. But perhaps they will say, The Number of the King's Subjects
lessen'd by the Wars, was not 600000 Heads. I believe, indeed, the Value
of each Head at a Medium is about 70l.
A. And so do I. But pray make it out that the Number of wanting Subjects
is 600000.
B. I cannot well undertake it, but will tell you what I remember to have
heard upon this Subject, vizt. It is allowed That the present Number of
People of Ireland is 1300000, That they are increased, since the Year
1653, by Corners out of Scotland and England, 50000; And by the ordinary
Course of Generation in 34 Years 350000 more.
A. I find by Grant's Observations, That they do not increase in England
so fast.
B. Very likely. For in England, the Proportion of Marry'd Teeming Women,
is not so great as in Ireland; Where they marry upon the first Capacity,
without staying for Portions, jointures, Settlements, &c. Well, let
it pass for the present, That the People A° 1653, were 900000, I will
prove it better at our next meeting. I say further, That the People A°
1641 were 1400000, And that they would have increased, had not the Warrs
hindered, to 1500000 in the 12 Years between 41 and 53, and the Difference
between 15 and 9 is 600000, as was propounded.
A. You go a little too fast. I believe that 14 in 12 Years
might have very well increas'd to 15. But pray tell me, Why there were
14 A° 1641, when there are but 13 now.
B. (1) I have heard many ancient observing People say So. 2. I find that
the Tyths yielded more in A° 1641, than in these latter Years; And
that the Number of Grist-Mills were also more A° 1641, than now. 3.
The Quantity of Hops, Tobacco, Sugars, and Salt, imported, were more than
now. And the Quantity of Hydes, Tallow, Cattle Dead and Alive, and of
Wools wrought and unwrought, were less; which shows that in Ireland the
Consumption was great (the Natural Produce being the same at both Periods)
& consequently more People.
A. I can find no great Fault with what you have said. But cou'd wish that
this great Point might not be slubber'd ; Murders and Massares (sic)
are odious Crimes. And some say, to Blacken the Irish, that they caused
the Death of above 150000 English and Scotch Protestants in the first
Year of their Commotions. And others. to extenuate the Causes of Forfeiture,
do shrink that Number to 400. But you have started a most soft and candid
Question, by Asking onely, without Rancor, How many of the King's Subjects
were fewer in Ireland, when the Warr ended, A° 1653, than they might
have been, if there had been no Warr at all, That is to say, Whether they
perished by Murders and Massacres committed by Private Hands, or by Hunger
and Cold, or by being frighted out of the Kingdom; or Whether they were
slain as Soldiers on both Sides; or Whether they perished by the Plague,
which reigned very fiercely A[°] 1650; Or by Famin and Desolation,
which was great about the End of the Warr; Or whether this Number were
Lessen'd, by Hindring the Ordinary Course of Generation: For it is all
one, by what Means they were Lessen'd, as to the Account we are now Stating,
Of the Damages which accru'd from the Rebellion. Altho' it be not all
one, as to the Sin of the particular Scelerates, which caused this Calamity.
B. What if I had said but 300000 instead of 600000, the Loss
even of 300000 People, is more than all the Estates of the Irish Real
and Personal, at their greatest Worth and Splendor, can expiate. Nevertheless,
because it is a curious Inquiry, and to shew you that I do not talk altogether
at Random, I will repeat and strengthen the Demonstration I began; vizt.
1. That there [are] about 1300000 Souls in Ireland in this Year 1687.
I say that the Revenue of Hearths is 30000l., So as the Hearths must be
300000 in Number. I say that, by a good Estimate from the Hearth-Books,
all the Houses in Ireland, which have more than one Chimney are 20000;
and that there dwell 6 Heads in each of such Houses, one with another:
In all 120000 Souls. And that there are in the said Houses 3 Chimneys
one with another, in all 60000 Chimneys : Which deducted Out of 300000,
leaves 240000 chimneys for 240000 Thousand Families. But in the poor Cabineer
Families, one with another, there live 5 Heads in each ; which makes the
Number of those Cabineers 1200000: Which added to the 1200000 (sic)
abovementioned, makes 1320000 Heads, which is the next round Number to
1300000.
2. Let me suppose that there were 900000 People in the Year 1653, and
1300000 now, then at a Medium there were 1100000 : Out of which there
dyed, at the Rate of one out of 30,37000 perAnnum. Grant saith that in
Countrey Parishes, where there arc 4 Burials there are 5 Births; and consequently
the Increase of the People in Ireland must be the Quarter of 37000 or
9000 one Quarter per Annum: Which multiply'd by 35 makes 315000 to have
increased by Generation, between the Year 1652 and 1687, and the Number
in 1652 to be 985000.
3. Altho' I said there were more People A° 1641 than A° 1687,
as appears by the Exportations, Importations, Tyths, Grist-Mills, and
the judgment of Intelligent Persons; Yet I shall suppose them to be but
one 13th Part, or 1400000 in all : But 1400000 would have increased
from the Year 1641 to the Year 1653 11500 per an or 138000, making the
whole 1538000. Now the Difference between 1538000 and 985000
is 553000. So as of the 985000 last Mentioned we need suppose but 470000
(sic) to have come out of England and Scotland in 35 Years; And
then the Assertion, that the King has lost 600000 Subjects by the Irish
Commotions is well justify'd.
I know these are not so perfect Demonstrations as are required
in pure Mathematicks; but they are such as our Superiors may work with,
as well as Wheelwrights and Clockmakers do work without the Quadrature
of a Circle. For to have been more Nice or Punctilious in them, had been
the same Excess, as if a Painter should work a large high AltarPiece in
Miniature : Whereas the gross Image of this Affair lyes in Saying, that
the Irish changed the Monarchy into Democracy, which cost the Crown of
England 600000 People, worth 42 Millions of Money.
A. You have said more than I thought could have been said : But remember,
I must have another Bout with you about this Matter. You told me how many
Claimants there were for this 300000l. worth of Forfeited Lands : Pray
proceed to tell me how the same was Actually dispos'd of by the Acts of
Settlement and Explanation, keeping to the Supposition, That the Whole
was but 300000l.
B. You come a little too suddenly upon me; I cannot tell you all these
Things without Book, but will give you the best Guess I can, which is
1. That the Adventurers (of the said 300000l.) had 43000l.
2. That 155000l. were given to the Soldiers.
3. That out of the Adventurers and Soldiers which had been Regicides,
20000l. was given to the Duke of York; and that Obnoxious Men of
both Sorts gave 4000l. to be shelter'd by Favourites.
4. The Church and Colledge of Dublin, and other Publick Uses had about
8000l., and the 49 Officers 32000l.
5. Protestant Sufferers, Servitors, and Favourites had the rest, or 38000l.
A. But what did all the Claymants, you just now mention'd, say to this
Shrinking of their Hopes into a Welshman's Button ?
B. They rail'd at the present Settlement and said, That the
Usurpers needed not to have been so kind, as by their Act in 1652 to give
away above 1/6 Part of the Whole to the Catholicks,
who forfeited all in Lump as one Man, eo Nomine; Tho' not for going to
Mass or Confession, nor for Praying to Saints or for the Dead; But for
Changing Monarchy into Democracy, for placing Supremacy into a Council
of Confederate Roman Catholicks, and for Extorting from the King (in duris)
the Articles of 1648. For the Usurpers themselves touch'd no man for his
Religion, and punish'd Protestants and Papists equally, whom they found
disaffected unto them ; and thought Difference in Religion to be no more
a Cause of Forfeiture, than an English Ship's carrying a Flag with a Red
Cross to an Enemy-Nation. But no doubt the Usurpers had an End for this
their Indulgence, as in the Preamble of the said Act is set forth. For
they gave all Men Leave to Claim upon their Qualifications, and the 8th
Qualification was the same with Innocency; and all Complainants (for ought
I know) were heard, and had Decrees at Athlone of one Sort or other.
A. This was a scurvy Grumble to begin withal : What else did they say?
B. I told you there were several Species of Claimants, whereof some Grumbled
one way and some another. As for Example : Some thought they had been
confirm'd, by the King's Promises at Breda, in what they possess'd the
7th of May 1659, without further Trial of Innocence, after
a Present given the King of 540000l. Others thought that the Acts
of the Rump-Parliament were, as to this Matter, completely warranted by
the Act of 17th of Charles the First, and that of judicial
Proceedings, which Doctrine the English Act of Oblivion seems to favour;
Others wonder'd to see 7 of 8 Irish Claimants adjudged Innocent, and that
very suspicious Deeds of Entail [were] allow'd to the Sons of Outlawed
Persons; That English Strangers should be put to prove what was done 20
Years before in the Rebels Quarters, and be deny'd the Testimony of the
49 Men for that Purpose: And in Fine, That about 1500000 Acres of Land
should be restored upon such Innocents, and upon such Titles,
and upon Provisos of mere Grace. Lastly, others grumbled, That the Irish
should so vehemently crave a further Hearing of all their Claims ; and
such Sherifs and Juries should be chosen, as shall allow the Deeds which
the Irish have suppressed For 20 Years. There be many other Grumblings
against Great Men; but the World will never be quiet, nor cease to be
Envious, not considering that if Things have been amiss in this Settlement,
they may be as bad in another.
A. You were saying that there was Grumbling against Great Men, upon the
Account of the present Settlement. I remember that the Narrative of the
Sale and Settlement of Ireland grumbles hard against the Duke of Ormond,
as for having as much Land, as would have satisfied all the Adventurers,
in or about the Year 1667, when that Pamphlet was written. Can you make
me understand this Matter, for it seems very Enormous, and by that I might
make a judgement of the whole Book.
B. That Author does often speak at random, and what he does not know;
omitting very many Things which ought to be known. But to this Present
Point I say, 1. That the Acres, which the Adventurers first had, were
390000; and I do not find that the Duke of Ormond had ever above 3
Quarters of that Number in his Hands of any Sort, or in any Sense.
2. That if he then had 300000 Acres in his Hands, above 200000 thereof
was the course Lands of Kerry; upon which he had onely some Chaffages.
3. That the said Lands were indeed 200000 Acres, but it was by the erroneous
Measure of the extream Column: Whereas they contained indeed scarce 30000
Acres by the Legal Measure of the reduced Column, according to which very
Measure, they were not worth 2s. per Acre before the Warrs.
4. His Grace, upon Trial of the Matter in the Court of Claims, quitted
these Lands to those who had Right in them, a little after the Author
wrote. So that in Truth, upon the whole Matter, this vast Scope of Kerry-Lands
would not have made above 1/40 Part of the Adventurer's
Satisfaction, which that Author conceived might have been a full Satisfaction
to them : And as his Grace was abused by this Narrative, so was he also
by them who put him upon Meddling with those Lands at all, which he held
about 5 Years upon their Sinister Perswasions.
A. I instance, in the next Place, the horrible Grumbling against Sr.
Wm. Petty as an exorbitant Gainer by the said Settlement. Can
you say any Thing of him?
B. That Man has been 35 Years upon the Stage of Irish Affairs, so as a
Volume might be writt concerning him. But the Answer to your Question
may be short, vizt. That Gentleman made an Admeasurement of Ireland in
the Year 1655 and 1656, now fairly recorded in his Majesty's Surveyor
General's Office, by distinct Maps of every Parish; and also Printed and
Published in distinct Maps of every County and Province. And the same
was appointed to be done, not onely by the Usurper's Acts, but even by
the Act 17° Car. Imd and the Work was confirmed not onely
by several Years of Probation during the Usurper's Government, but also
by the Acts made in Ireland since the King's Restauration; and
more particularly, after ten Year's Examination of the same by the Act
of Explanation in the 22d and 23d Pages thereof
: And hath been before and since the Rule and Standard of the greatest
Transactions in Ireland.
This Survey was performed by Measuring as much Line by the Chain (and
Measuring about 20 Angles within every Mile's Space by the Circumferenter)
as would encompass the Globe of the Earth 8 Times about in it's greatest
Circle. Now if we may allow him to gain 1000l. for Measuring each
Time about the World (his Accounts amounting to 9000l.) then the
said Gain, lay'd out in forfeited Lands at half a Crown the Acre (which
was the fair Market-Rate, as hath been elsewhere proved) then Sr.
Wm. Petty might have 70000 Acres for his Work, worth at 2s.
the Acre 7000l. per Ann.
Memorandum, That if he had gotten more than is here mentioned, he need
not have been a Knave thereby: For he had A0 1657 4000l. in Money
more than the 9000l. that he got by the Survey. But if he has a
less Estate than aforesaid, he was a Fool or unfortunate pro tanto.
I further say, That the Lands belonging to the Catholicks A° 1641
were near 5 Millions of Irish Acres, or 8 Millions of English Acres profitable,
with 3 Millions more in Rivers, High-ways, Loughs, Bogs, Rocks, and barren
Mountains. And the Charge of the said Admeasurement was 24000l.
or little above 40s. per Thousand Acres, and little above one half-penny
per Acre Rough and Smooth. And if the said Survey be computed at 200000
English Miles, which will encompass the World 8 Times about; Then, allowing
half a Crown or 2s. 4d. for Measuring an English Mile (with
perhaps 20 Angles in the same) or about Ten Groats for an Irish Mile,
the Charge of the said Survey will not amounts (sic) to 25000l.,
which is more than was given for the same.
A. Pray proceed to the Cases of other Men, who have got great Estates
by the Settlement.
B. In answer to your Desire, 1 will name you about 25 of the greatest
Gainers by the Settlement : Protesting against having any Prejudice against
any of them. And must first tell you, That the King has
about 56000l. per Ann. by new Quit-Rents out of the Forfeitures
; that of the Catholicks the greatest Gainers are the Duke of York, Earl
of Clancarty, Earl of Inchequeen, Earl of Tyrconnel, Earl of Carlingford,
the Lord of Clare, the Lord Dillon, Coll. Matthews, & Mr.
John Brown of Connaught.
2. That of those, who lived in Ireland before the Rebellion, the most
considerable were the Duke of Ormond, Earl of Anglesey, Earl of Orrery,
Earl of Montrath, the Lord Chancellor, the Lord Lansborough, the Lord
Kingston, Lord Coloony, Sr. Theophilus Jones, Sr.
Maurice Eustace, and Aldermn Preston.
3. That of those, who came into Ireland since the Year 1648, the most
considerable were the Lord Massareen, Aldermn Erasmus Smith, Sr.
Wm. Petty, Captn James Stopford, Mr.
John Eyres of Connaught, and Sr. Henry Ingoldsby : some of
all which Sorts did their Business by downright Gifts and Grants, Some
were forced into great Advantages by Guilty and Obnoxious Persons; Some
by the Sheltering and Colouring Vicious and defective Interests; Some
by the Trade of Buying and Selling Debenturs, and Adventures, and Connaught-Purchases.
So as I verily believe, That of the whole 300000l. worth of Forfeitures,
there did not remain with the new English A° 1683 one full Third Part
thereof. I mean by the new English, not all those that came into Ireland
since the Beginning of the Rebellion, but onely those who came thither
between the Year 1646 (when the King's Affairs went to wreck in England)
and the Year 1656 (when the Usurpers were in their Meridian), Which Party
of Men, altho' they all seem to be Phanatically and Democratically disposed,
yet in truth were Animals of all Sorts, as in Noah's Ark.
A. The Narrative of the Sale and Settlement pathetically sets forth, That
never any Nation was so miserable as the Irish after their Conquest A°
1653 : Whereas you insinuate, They Gained more than they Lost by the Rebellion.
B. I say by my own Observation, That I never saw so much Merriment and
Jollity anywhere, than A° 1652, among
those that were to be Transported and their Friends. And have heard that
the said Transportees lived more pleasantly Abroad than at Home. I also
say, That Nine Parts of Ten of that Nation, who lived as Labourers and
Tenants, did live more plentifully and freely in the next Seven Years
after their Conquest between A° 1653 and 1660, than they had done
in the Seven Years next before the Warrs. For they had Lands at small
Rents even at 1/5 at the present, and yet sold their
Commodities at greater Rates than now, and, paying their Rents, were as
free as their Landlords. Nor do I remember any Man to have been by Authority
punished for his Religion in that Time, there being no National Church
then established in Ireland.
A. I thank you for your Informations, but cannot digest that Honest-Moderate-Wealthy
Catholicks should lose their Estates, for what a Company of Lewd, Ignorant,
Barbarous, and Beggerly Rascals did against the English in the Tumultuary
Year 1642.
B. Alas it is the Wrath of God, and a Curse upon Mankind, that Things
should be so! Is not the whole World ingaged in Original Sin, for Adam's
Eating the Forbidden Fruit ? Do not Princes, by the Allowance of their
Confessors, throw Bombs and Fire-works into besieged Towns, which light
more upon innocent Women and Children, than upon those who have offended
the said Princes, or even upon Soldiers in Arms ? The General Assembly
of the Catholicks did not punish the Outrages committed in that Tumult
by those Scelerates; nor did those Moderate Men (you mention) by Word
or Deed protest against their General Assembly, nor the Confederate Usurpers
of Supremacy ; but had all Secret Hopes of Gaining some agreeable Ends
out of those Horrible Beginnings. Are not all Men bound by an Act of Parliament
in England, altho' 4 Parts of 5 have no Right to make Members for either
House? I am unwilling to drive this Nail too far; Think on what I have
said, and let me have your Objections at our next Meeting.
A. Pray, have a little Patience, and as you have now told
me what the English and Protestants have lost, so repeat (if you please)
what the Irish Catholicks have got by the Rebellion, or what else you
will call it?
B. As to the Name Rebellion, I matter it not, That which the Irish did
amiss in was, as I apprehend, THE CHANGING THE ENGLISH MONARCHY INTO A
DEMOCRACY; The Placing Supremacy into a Confederacy of Roman Catholicks
to the Wrong and Blemish of that Religion, and the Extorting from the
King (in duress) the Articles of A° 1648 : All which is plain-intelligible
English of which there is no Doubt.
The Particulars by which the Irish gain'd are these; vizt.
1.
By the Robberies and Plunderings of the English before the Gen Assembly.
|
600000l. |
2.
By Usurpation of the King's Revenue for above 8 Years. |
500000l. |
3.
By Usurpation of the Church-Lands and Livings for the same Time. |
900000l. |
4.
By Exportation of 34000 Men at 40l., per Head. |
1300000l. |
5.
By Improvements upon Restor'd Lands. |
1200000l. |
In
all |
4500000l. |
Now tho' the Value of the forfeited Lands were
A° 1641, 3600000l., Yet it must be understood that 11/12
Parts thereof was lost by Common Calamity, and onely 300000l. (the
Value of the same A° 1653) was lost by Penalty or Forfeiture, which
is but the 15th Part of what they gained, as aforesaid.
A. I do not see that those, that lost their Lands, got any Part of the
4500000l., above-mentioned.
B. Truely, I believe not. For I think the 600000l. got by Plundering,
was immediately and lewdly spent by the
Plunderers themselves. That the King's and Church's Revenue might have
been spent upon the Common Cause. That
the Gain upon the 34000 exported Men, redounded to the Exportees themselves,
and to their Conductors and Commanders. That the Improvements accrewed
to the Restorees onely. But all that is nothing : For all the Confederate
Roman Catholicks, ought to be looked upon but as one Man;
who lost by Way of Forfeiture 300000l. and gain'd 4500000l.,
which is 15 for one. Now for Remedy of Inequality among themselves, it
may be done by a Court or Council of Catholicks erected for that purpose,
as aforementioned, and by the Prudence of Confessors; without Frighting
and Disturbing the whole Nation with a perpetual Fear of Unsettlement.
A. I will trouble you no further. The Summ of what I have learn'd is this,
That by the Rebellion in Ireland is properly mean't, THE CHANGE OF MONARCHY
INTO DEMOCRACY, AND TRANSFERRING SOVEREIGN POWER FROM THE KING TO THE
CONFEDERATE CATHOLICKS: And Aggravated by Extorting the Articles of 1648,
and not Punishing the Outrages of 1641. And that the said Confederates
gained thereby 15 Times more than they properly lost; And that all the
several Branches of the English-Protestant Interest lost 200 Times more
than they gain'd.
B. You need not now at last be so very short; but (if you please) sum
up what we have said thus. (vizt)
1. Between the 23d of October 1641, and the 10th of November
1642, there was a Barbarous and Outragious Tumult of the Irish Catholicks
against the English Protestants in Ireland: Who being then about 10 to
one committed many Murders, Robberies, and Mischiefs upon the English.
2. That the 10th of November 1642, and after Edge-Hill-Fight
in England, when the King was dangerously ingaged against his Enemies,
the Irish changed Monarchy into Democracy.
3. The Roman Catholicks then blemished their own Sacred and Infallible
Religion, by Making it a signal Ear-Mark and Brand of Rebellion upon themselves.
4. Their several Cessations and Peaces with the King gave him no Relief
to his Distresses in England; But the Latter in 1648, was thought to be
a main Cause of his disastrous Death.
5. That the English, in Pursuance of an Act made by the King, Lords, and
Commons of England, perfectly suppress'd that Rebellion in
the Year 1653, with an immense Expence of English Blood and Treasure,
and the Loss of 600000 People.
6. The actual Conquerors did, by way of Indulgence, give to the Catholicks
a 6th Part of all the Lands which belonged to them A° 1641,
with the Liberty of their Persons and Personal Estates, punishing no Man
for his Religion.
7. They Leased back the Lands, which they got from them as forfeited,
at one Quarter of the real Value between 1653 and 1660.
8. The said actual Conquerors surrendred all their Acquisitions to the
King at Breda, and made him a Present of 540000l., which, with
60000l. spent in Defence of his Title, amounted to double the Value
of what they now keep, as A° 1653.
9. An Army was kept up from 1653 to 1663, whose Pay was equivalent to
the Rent of all the Forfeited Lands.
10. The Regicides and Halberteers were outed of all their Acquisitions,
and many disaffected Persons driven to take shelter under others &
to part with their Interests at small Rates.
11. A new Court of Innocence, and Clauses of Grace, give after the Promises
of Breda, one Third more to the Catholicks of all that belonged to them
in 1641, with as much Improvement as was worth 4 Times what all the Lands
they lost were worth A° 1653.
12. A° 1655, The English retrench a Third of what was most Legally
due. But the Irish Restorees nothing.
13. Upon the whole Matter, the Irish Catholicks seem to have gained by
these Commotions 15 Times more than they lost ; And all the Branches of
the English-Protestant Interest, seem to have Lost 200 Times more than
they have Gained.
14. The Parliament of Ireland gave to the King in PoleMoney, Subsidies,
&c. within 5 Years after his Restauration, about 1200000l.
15. The same Parliament gave the King a Revenue, by new
Quit-Rents out of Forfeitures, of near 60000l. per Ann. and made
his whole Revenue quadruple to what the said was before the Warrs.
16. The Irish Catholicks, by indeavouring to out the English of what they
held, A° 1684, have reduced all the Real and Personal Estate of Ireland
to be Worth but one half of what the same was worth in the said Year 1684,
and lessen'd their own Estate above 2 Millions.
17. The Transplantation above-mentioned, which should have been made above
500 Years since, will benefit both Nations 140 Millions; and that of Scotland
60 Millions more: In all 200 Millions at the Hazard of 4 or 5 onely.
A. The Title of your Treatise is POLITICAL PASTIMES AND PARADOXES. Now,
besides my particular Thanks, I give you this Complement, That the Consideration
of these Matters may be Pastimes becoming the King. And your Assertions,
concerning the Gain and Loss by the Rebellion (tho' but a 10th
Part thereof should be true) is a Paradox in all the Courts of Christendom,
where the Narrative of the Sale and Settlement of Ireland has been published.
B. I thank you, and do willingly submit my self to the Censure of the
World ; and shall take it as a Kindness from any good Patriot, that will
solidly confute, that is to say, rectify what I have said amiss, That
England (which has the Ultimate judicature of these Matters) may be throughly
informed.
F I N I S .
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